N.1. 20-1251 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE TEMPORARY TRAFFIC CIRCLES INSTALLED AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF FIRMONA AVENUE AT FISK LANE, SPRECKELS LANE, AND ARMOUR LANE
I am grateful that the city took an interest in exploring ways to improve traffic conditions in our neighborhood. (I live near the corner of Firmona Avenue and Spreckels Lane). In short, I endorse the removal of the traffic circles at the earliest opportunity. Rather than improve safety, the circles have increased the risk to vehicles and especially to pedestrians. Vehicles that intend to continue on in the same direction they are heading (in particular Northbound and Southbound traffic) never have to stop, and as a result cars maintain speed and wiggle into the the crosswalk area, as defied by the extension of the sidewalks, posing a clear and potentially lethal risk to pedestrians. Further, right of way ( which is held by vehicles already in the circle) s a matter of confusion for drivers, owing to the fact cars that intend to continue in the same direction, never really enter the circle, but just wiggle through... again, without slowing down. Finally the loss of parking owing to the installation of the circles, is something of a hardship, particularly on street cleaning days; one can expect this to worsen as the Foundry project is completed.
I would be content with the installation of four way stops at each intersection. crosswalks would be normalized to their expected position and function, vehicles would slow as they would be forced to stop at each intersection, vehicular safety would be increased as confusion about how to proceed through each intersection would be removed. I do not favor time of day restrictions or the like
My name is Dana Matsuno and I live at the corner of Spreckels and Firmona. I would also like to thank the City Council and employees, and council members for trying to address concerns about traffic and safety. However, the traffic circles have made the street more dangerous due to confusion on how to drive the circles, or disregard for rules. I support the removal of the circles, and adding four way stops to each intersection. Alternatively, there should be speed humps at Armour and Spreckels and a four way stop at Fisk (as was originally there).
I have two young children who play in the neighborhood and walk, ride bikes/scooters and am concerned for their safety and my own safety. The reports may show that traffic has "slowed," there is still plenty of unsafe driving happening, even at reduced speeds (and still plenty of cars that speed through). It is not clear that pedestrians have the right away. Just this week, I had two incidents while trying to cross the intersection at Fisk and Firmona with my children. One car drove towards the intersection, saw me and my family, continued driving and "waved" me off, signaling presumably to say stay there because they were going to keep driving through without slowing down. Another time, a car drove towards the intersection, saw me and my family and just kept driving without even slowing down to yield at the intersection.
No amount of "education" will solve this problem. People don't see enough traffic circles. And enforcement isn't 24/7 so won't be effective. Stop signs will make it clear that a car must stop and yield. It's difficult enough to explain teach a child how to cross at a stop sign, it's impossible teaching a child how to cross a traffic circle where drivers don’t follow the rules. Combining all these factors this is a safety hazard and an accident waiting to happen. We respectfully request you consider and listen to the residents who live here and witness this everyday. Thank you.
PS - I also oppose turning restrictions leaving the neighborhood southbound on Firmona, turning left onto 190th. This will impact residents negatively and people who cut through won't follow anyway.
While I appreciate the city's efforts to slow traffic through the Firmona Ave. corridor, the traffic circles have not been effective in doing so. Stop signs at the corners of Fisk Lane, Spreckels Lane, and Armour Lane would have a greater impact on the safety of our neighborhood. Please consider these alternatives.
Hello my name is Brenda Garcia, resident on Fisk Lane. I oppose the traffic circles. I do not feel like they have improved safety. There is so much confusion on who has the right of way. Traffic does not slow down because if you are turning from 190th- drivers do not have Stop signs anymore. People can drive for blocks without ever stopping. I see kids playing in and around them because they seem to produce a false sense of safety. They also take up much needed space. Other areas of Redondo feel cramped and thankfully we still live in an area that has enough space for more than 1 car to go through. Please remove the traffic circles.
Hello, I live at Fisk and drive through all 3 traffic circles at least twice a day; I also support removing the traffic circles. I am grateful that the city found a low-cost way of researching methods of mitigating speeders and reckless driving in our neighborhood. Unfortunately, as everyone I've spoken to locally they have actually made driving in our neighborhood more hazardous. Because cars are no longer required to stop, drivers who enter the roundabouts do so at high speed and routinely do not stop to avoid colliding with other cars already in the roundabouts. Additionally, pedestrians' crossing paths intersect the roundabout lanes, and I've witnessed several near-misses in the short time the roundabouts have been installed—drivers simply do not expect to have to stop for pedestrians (many of whom are our children who walk and bike through our neighborhood) when they drive forward through an intersection, which these roundabouts now require. Please remove them. 4-way stops at all intersections are safer. The roundabouts have only made walking, biking and driving in our neighborhood more dangerous.
I am in complete support of removing the traffic circles immediately. They have caused more problems in the neighborhood than they have solved, and recently they have become a target of vandalism. Thank you.
My name is Gena Dix I reside at 2731 Spreckels Ln near the above mentioned Firmona Corridor. First off, my husband and I wanted to thank the City of Redondo for listening to the residents in our neighborhood and attempting to slow traffic. Unfortunately, the traffic circles do not serve that purpose. We have three school age children who enjoy walking, biking and scooting around our neighborhood with their friends/neighbors. We do not feel safe because there is no designated space for them to cross the street safely and while cars should stop for pedestrians they don't and we have witnessed some scary near accidents because of this. The other call beyond slowing traffic is decreasing the Inglewood/ 190th cut through traffic. The cars are driving too fast to skip the light. I think four way stop signs at each intersection with clearly designated cross walks would be a better alternative. Also, signage that states no cut through from high traffic hours into our neighborhood, similar to other Redondo Neighborhoods. Bright signage designating that children are at play and to reduce speeds would be greatly beneficial to keep our kids and neighbors safe. Ultimately police presence would help as well handing out tickets. My family and I love our neighborhood and Redondo, we want to feel safe. Thank you for listening.
We live at the corner at Spreckels Ln and Firmona Ave, so we are directly affected by the traffic circles in front of our house.
The temporary project, which was supposed to last 6 months, was installed in September 2019, removing the only stop sign we had, at Firmona Ave and Fisk Ln. Since that, our life resumed to be yelling on crazy drivers speeding, seeing people taking the wrong direction as a short cut, and fire trucks and moving trucks getting stuck because there is no area enough to maneuver around. I have a 33 ft RV, and I can’t do either. We had to teach our neighborhood kids the safest way to cross the street: it is in diagonal, staying inside the circle to be seeing. Otherwise, no one would stop for pedestrians, because they can’t be seen. Also the amount of parking spaces we lost due to these circles are unacceptable.
Considering that two big construction developments are coming to 190th area, worsening the neighborhood traffic even more, we urge for an effective solution - we need all way stop signs on Firmona Ave at three crossings: Armour Ln, Spreckels Ln and Fisk Ln. In addition to that, we also need the other 2 approved solutions: (1) no turn signs on 190th St and Firmona Ave at a given timeframe, and (2) speed bumps on Fisk Ln and Ralston Ln, to be implemented ASAP.
These traffic circles have not solved any problems, but have created several new ones. Removal of the stop signs has increased car speeds as people continue to cut through the neighborhood, which negatively impacts the safety of our children. The circles have also impacted intersection safety for all pedestrians since the flow of traffic now overlaps with the crossing paths. The intersection size is not adequate for the traffic circles. Finally, the traffic circles have greatly reduced parking for residents and residential visitors, unfairly impacting those of us who live at or near the intersection.
Alternatives including four way stops and/or gradual speed bumps should be used. We have put up with this failed experiment long enough, so removal of the traffic circles should be top priority.
I am grateful that the city took an interest in exploring ways to improve traffic conditions in our neighborhood. (I live near the corner of Firmona Avenue and Spreckels Lane). In short, I endorse the removal of the traffic circles at the earliest opportunity. Rather than improve safety, the circles have increased the risk to vehicles and especially to pedestrians. Vehicles that intend to continue on in the same direction they are heading (in particular Northbound and Southbound traffic) never have to stop, and as a result cars maintain speed and wiggle into the the crosswalk area, as defied by the extension of the sidewalks, posing a clear and potentially lethal risk to pedestrians. Further, right of way ( which is held by vehicles already in the circle) s a matter of confusion for drivers, owing to the fact cars that intend to continue in the same direction, never really enter the circle, but just wiggle through... again, without slowing down. Finally the loss of parking owing to the installation of the circles, is something of a hardship, particularly on street cleaning days; one can expect this to worsen as the Foundry project is completed.
I would be content with the installation of four way stops at each intersection. crosswalks would be normalized to their expected position and function, vehicles would slow as they would be forced to stop at each intersection, vehicular safety would be increased as confusion about how to proceed through each intersection would be removed. I do not favor time of day restrictions or the like
My name is Dana Matsuno and I live at the corner of Spreckels and Firmona. I would also like to thank the City Council and employees, and council members for trying to address concerns about traffic and safety. However, the traffic circles have made the street more dangerous due to confusion on how to drive the circles, or disregard for rules. I support the removal of the circles, and adding four way stops to each intersection. Alternatively, there should be speed humps at Armour and Spreckels and a four way stop at Fisk (as was originally there).
I have two young children who play in the neighborhood and walk, ride bikes/scooters and am concerned for their safety and my own safety. The reports may show that traffic has "slowed," there is still plenty of unsafe driving happening, even at reduced speeds (and still plenty of cars that speed through). It is not clear that pedestrians have the right away. Just this week, I had two incidents while trying to cross the intersection at Fisk and Firmona with my children. One car drove towards the intersection, saw me and my family, continued driving and "waved" me off, signaling presumably to say stay there because they were going to keep driving through without slowing down. Another time, a car drove towards the intersection, saw me and my family and just kept driving without even slowing down to yield at the intersection.
No amount of "education" will solve this problem. People don't see enough traffic circles. And enforcement isn't 24/7 so won't be effective. Stop signs will make it clear that a car must stop and yield. It's difficult enough to explain teach a child how to cross at a stop sign, it's impossible teaching a child how to cross a traffic circle where drivers don’t follow the rules. Combining all these factors this is a safety hazard and an accident waiting to happen. We respectfully request you consider and listen to the residents who live here and witness this everyday. Thank you.
PS - I also oppose turning restrictions leaving the neighborhood southbound on Firmona, turning left onto 190th. This will impact residents negatively and people who cut through won't follow anyway.
While I appreciate the city's efforts to slow traffic through the Firmona Ave. corridor, the traffic circles have not been effective in doing so. Stop signs at the corners of Fisk Lane, Spreckels Lane, and Armour Lane would have a greater impact on the safety of our neighborhood. Please consider these alternatives.
Hello my name is Brenda Garcia, resident on Fisk Lane. I oppose the traffic circles. I do not feel like they have improved safety. There is so much confusion on who has the right of way. Traffic does not slow down because if you are turning from 190th- drivers do not have Stop signs anymore. People can drive for blocks without ever stopping. I see kids playing in and around them because they seem to produce a false sense of safety. They also take up much needed space. Other areas of Redondo feel cramped and thankfully we still live in an area that has enough space for more than 1 car to go through. Please remove the traffic circles.
Hello, I live at Fisk and drive through all 3 traffic circles at least twice a day; I also support removing the traffic circles. I am grateful that the city found a low-cost way of researching methods of mitigating speeders and reckless driving in our neighborhood. Unfortunately, as everyone I've spoken to locally they have actually made driving in our neighborhood more hazardous. Because cars are no longer required to stop, drivers who enter the roundabouts do so at high speed and routinely do not stop to avoid colliding with other cars already in the roundabouts. Additionally, pedestrians' crossing paths intersect the roundabout lanes, and I've witnessed several near-misses in the short time the roundabouts have been installed—drivers simply do not expect to have to stop for pedestrians (many of whom are our children who walk and bike through our neighborhood) when they drive forward through an intersection, which these roundabouts now require. Please remove them. 4-way stops at all intersections are safer. The roundabouts have only made walking, biking and driving in our neighborhood more dangerous.
I am in complete support of removing the traffic circles immediately. They have caused more problems in the neighborhood than they have solved, and recently they have become a target of vandalism. Thank you.
My name is Gena Dix I reside at 2731 Spreckels Ln near the above mentioned Firmona Corridor. First off, my husband and I wanted to thank the City of Redondo for listening to the residents in our neighborhood and attempting to slow traffic. Unfortunately, the traffic circles do not serve that purpose. We have three school age children who enjoy walking, biking and scooting around our neighborhood with their friends/neighbors. We do not feel safe because there is no designated space for them to cross the street safely and while cars should stop for pedestrians they don't and we have witnessed some scary near accidents because of this. The other call beyond slowing traffic is decreasing the Inglewood/ 190th cut through traffic. The cars are driving too fast to skip the light. I think four way stop signs at each intersection with clearly designated cross walks would be a better alternative. Also, signage that states no cut through from high traffic hours into our neighborhood, similar to other Redondo Neighborhoods. Bright signage designating that children are at play and to reduce speeds would be greatly beneficial to keep our kids and neighbors safe. Ultimately police presence would help as well handing out tickets. My family and I love our neighborhood and Redondo, we want to feel safe. Thank you for listening.
We live at the corner at Spreckels Ln and Firmona Ave, so we are directly affected by the traffic circles in front of our house.
The temporary project, which was supposed to last 6 months, was installed in September 2019, removing the only stop sign we had, at Firmona Ave and Fisk Ln. Since that, our life resumed to be yelling on crazy drivers speeding, seeing people taking the wrong direction as a short cut, and fire trucks and moving trucks getting stuck because there is no area enough to maneuver around. I have a 33 ft RV, and I can’t do either. We had to teach our neighborhood kids the safest way to cross the street: it is in diagonal, staying inside the circle to be seeing. Otherwise, no one would stop for pedestrians, because they can’t be seen. Also the amount of parking spaces we lost due to these circles are unacceptable.
Considering that two big construction developments are coming to 190th area, worsening the neighborhood traffic even more, we urge for an effective solution - we need all way stop signs on Firmona Ave at three crossings: Armour Ln, Spreckels Ln and Fisk Ln. In addition to that, we also need the other 2 approved solutions: (1) no turn signs on 190th St and Firmona Ave at a given timeframe, and (2) speed bumps on Fisk Ln and Ralston Ln, to be implemented ASAP.
These traffic circles have not solved any problems, but have created several new ones. Removal of the stop signs has increased car speeds as people continue to cut through the neighborhood, which negatively impacts the safety of our children. The circles have also impacted intersection safety for all pedestrians since the flow of traffic now overlaps with the crossing paths. The intersection size is not adequate for the traffic circles. Finally, the traffic circles have greatly reduced parking for residents and residential visitors, unfairly impacting those of us who live at or near the intersection.
Alternatives including four way stops and/or gradual speed bumps should be used. We have put up with this failed experiment long enough, so removal of the traffic circles should be top priority.